[164653] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric Brunner-Williams)
Fri Jul 26 12:41:32 2013
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 09:38:54 -0700
From: Eric Brunner-Williams <brunner@nic-naa.net>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <8450E437-4F62-4AA9-BEA5-9A968A46A085@ianai.net>
Reply-To: ebw@abenaki.wabanaki.net
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On 7/26/13 8:40 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
> On Jul 26, 2013, at 11:05 , David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org> wrote:
>> > On Jul 26, 2013, at 7:58 AM, "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net> wrote:
>>> >> You can change anything you want. ARIN & ICANN are both member organizations. Propose a change, get the votes, and POOF!, things are changed.
>> >
>> > Err. ICANN isn't a membership organization. It is possible to change things at ICANN, but the mechanisms are ... different and much slower (since it involves getting consensus in a multi-stakeholder environment).
> Sure it is, the membership is just very .. uh .. selective. :)
>
> "Stakeholder" is just a fancy way of saying "member". They vote, things change.
>
> Like I said, this is _exactly_ what Ryan wanted. Only the "anointed" get to decide things. Works out well, doesn't it?
Actually the member / non-member distinction is important in
California corporations law.
Also important is the distinction between agency of government and
anything else, there's about two reams of double-sided 11pt text on
the subject, and that's just between Michael Froomkin and Joe Simms.
Cheers,
Eric
