[164636] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Warren Bailey)
Thu Jul 25 19:46:45 2013
From: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
To: Justin Vocke <justin.vocke@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 23:41:32 +0000
In-Reply-To: <CAKhVRCddtvSyJU0WVPnQDHOHxNUrJEEpz29Oj5Ge-O+p7Sc8ow@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Reply-To: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
I won't pretend to know how it's getting out there. Google your email addre=
ss in about 10 minutes and see this conversation in 10 different lists.
As Mark mentioned, this list has a lot of valuable eyes looking at it - so =
it's often a <insert snake oil o' the month> sales guy's wet dream. On the =
upside, solarwinds sent me a random 10 dollar amazon gift card a few weeks =
back so not all is lost.. ;)
Sent from my Mobile Device.
-------- Original message --------
From: Justin Vocke <justin.vocke@gmail.com>
Date: 07/25/2013 4:37 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
Cc: surfer@mauigateway.com,nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads
I'm pretty sure you have to sign a AUP or something to get access to the ma=
ss whois tool with ARIN, I'm just not sure of how they enforce what people =
are actually doing with the list.
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligen=
cegroup.com<mailto:wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>> wrote:
I read your response and totally agree. I'm just saying that your dollars n=
ot being spent with someone will probably not result in the calls stopping.=
Advertising and marketing dominates this planet now, and people make big m=
oney by selling "lists" to organizations making a buck. Not saying these pe=
ople didn't get it directly, but it should not be expected to stop unless t=
here is a do not call registry (as I would think those guys would fall unde=
r a telemarketing agency). I could be wrong..
Sent from my Mobile Device.
-------- Original message --------
From: Scott Weeks <surfer@mauigateway.com<mailto:surfer@mauigateway.com>>
Date: 07/25/2013 4:28 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: RE: ARIN WHOIS for leads
--- wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com<mailto:wbailey@satelliteintellig=
encegroup.com> wrote:
From: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com<mailto:wbailey@=
satelliteintelligencegroup.com>>
We registered a few domains and get the same thing, I think
it's something that people are going to have to live with. :/
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No, we don't have to live with it. Name-n-shame and let us
vote with our dollars. As I've said in the past, the ONLY
thing they'll understand is negative impact to their bottom
line...
scott
