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Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Warren Bailey)
Tue Jul 16 13:16:08 2013

From: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
To: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>, Eugeniu Patrascu
 <eugen@imacandi.net>
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:15:54 +0000
In-Reply-To: <CAL9jLaYdAsBZR=9cvpKa5n3xgeC8jEYGxZWiy51W0sG9duaD6A@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: nanog list <nanog@nanog.org>
Reply-To: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

I still believe the initial disclosure should have included a matter of gre=
at international importance.. If it were me, I would have dropped info alon=
g with the fact that facebook is going to a pay model. There would have bee=
n riots in the streets. ;)


Sent from my Mobile Device.


-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
Date: 07/16/2013 9:48 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: Eugeniu Patrascu <eugen@imacandi.net>
Cc: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>,Valdis Kletnieks=
 <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu>,nanog list <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted=
 messages


On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 1:42 AM, Eugeniu Patrascu <eugen@imacandi.net> wrot=
e:
> Dropping everything at once may dilute the debate as I am sure your
> government and every other government that may be proved to be involved w=
ill

it seems likely that every gov't with sense is doing this sort of
thing... there's no reason for them NOT to, and many many countries
intentionally setup their telecoms infrastructure in a way that
supports this behaviour.

-chris
(yes, over broad collection and analysis and leaving it to the
analyst(s) to decide what is 'overbroad' - "my girlfriend/wife/horse
WAS talking to a foreign person...honest!" isn't cool, I'm not
debating that point)

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