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Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Aaron Wendel)
Sun Jul 14 16:45:50 2013

Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 15:45:26 -0500
From: Aaron Wendel <aaron@wholesaleinternet.net>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <1373834247.2182.4.camel@Andromeda>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On 7/14/2013 3:37 PM, Richard Golodner wrote:
> On Sun, 2013-07-14 at 09:36 -1000, Randy Bush wrote:
>> in
>> fact, they were all likely in the same rotten boat.
>
> 	Why I love open source. Look at my mail, track my web site visits. None
> of this should come as any surprise, especially to the members of this
> list. Now for the guy down the street that is working on his 69 Camaro
> at two in the morning it may have come as a shock.
> 	Richard
>
>

We (ISPs) are all compelled to provide information from time to time 
under a court order. The PRISM program is voluntary.  These companies 
gave the NSA access to their systems voluntarily.  To me there is a big 
difference.  I would be interested to know what they got out of it.


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