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Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Warren Bailey)
Sun Jul 14 12:24:07 2013
From: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
To: Rodrick Brown <rodrick.brown@gmail.com>, Eugeniu Patrascu
<eugen@imacandi.net>
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 16:23:31 +0000
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Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Reply-To: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Kim was never right all along. I worked for them/him in Munich in 2000 just=
before tuv buyout. I'm actually really surprised journalists haven't googl=
ed his back story.. The real one.
Sent from my Mobile Device.
-------- Original message --------
From: Rodrick Brown <rodrick.brown@gmail.com>
Date: 07/14/2013 9:16 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: Eugeniu Patrascu <eugen@imacandi.net>
Cc: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>,nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted=
messages
Seems Kim was right all along... Rumors have it MegaEmail is in the works.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 14, 2013, at 3:45 AM, Eugeniu Patrascu <eugen@imacandi.net> wrote:
> Maybe people will now start turning on their encryption functions on any
> device capable of doing it :)
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Warren Bailey <
> wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com> wrote:
>
>> The entire idea of prism is hitting tier 1 providers and mass
>> communications providers. If they haven't rooted your exchange gear, the=
y
>> don't need to - your upstream providers entire stream is being copied. I
>> can't think of many providers that couldn't be intercepted. When new
>> transportation mediums arrive, who cares.. You already have a copy from
>> their provider or peer.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Mobile Device.
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: ryangard@gmail.com
>> Date: 07/12/2013 8:52 PM (GMT-08:00)
>> To:
>> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
>> Subject: Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to
>> encrypted messages
>>
>>
>> It wouldn't be. When the endpoint in question is compromised, there isn'=
t
>> any amount of tunneling or obscurity between point a and point b that wi=
ll
>> resolve it. Only thing you can do is change to a solution that you have
>> more control over.
>> Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
>> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 00:12:37
>> To: Nick Khamis<symack@gmail.com>; Justin M. Streiner<
>> streiner@cluebyfour.org>
>> Reply-To: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
>> Cc: nanog@nanog.org<nanog@nanog.org>
>> Subject: Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encryp=
ted
>> messages
>>
>> That doesn't sound like it would be effective in this instance?
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Mobile Device.
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Nick Khamis <symack@gmail.com>
>> Date: 07/12/2013 1:06 PM (GMT-08:00)
>> To: "Justin M. Streiner" <streiner@cluebyfour.org>
>> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
>> Subject: Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to
>> encrypted messages
>>
>>
>> We are currently working on something right now where all connections
>> are doing over an encrypted vpn. We are bringing SIP, email, search,
>> and cloud to the tunnel.
>>
>> You can contact me off list if you would like to know more.
>>
>> Nick Khamis
>>
>>
