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Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Warren Bailey)
Fri Jul 12 05:26:48 2013
From: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
To: Rodrick Brown <rodrick.brown@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 09:26:32 +0000
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Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Reply-To: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
It's not a shock. What is shocking, is the blatant disregard for general pr=
ivacy. Because it exists on a medium other than something I own, it does no=
t somehow become property of another. If this isn't a big deal, I imagine a=
search of your home isn't an issue either? The point is, these companies h=
ave the power (they, after all, pay for elections) to tell these people.. I=
t's not your call. You cannot simply say we are collecting everything, to a=
vert an attack. The Boston guys were both from out of the country, with for=
eign names, and foreign governments had warned us before. How effective is =
a machine that scans data for terrorist machines, if a FLAGGED person can s=
till cause us harm?
This jihad against America has accomplished one thing, we are going broke t=
rying to fend off an invisible enemy. A kid from Nigeria hopped on a plane =
with a bomb in his shorts and MADE IT TO AMERICAN SOIL. If I am giving up p=
rivacy, I expect a tangible return. A couple of bedroom bombers slipping th=
rough the cracks and killing people is not a tangible return, in my opinion=
. The NSA needs to be spying on OTHER people, we are apparently innocent un=
til proven guilty.. Ymmv
Sent from my Mobile Device.
-------- Original message --------
From: Rodrick Brown <rodrick.brown@gmail.com>
Date: 07/11/2013 6:27 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted=
messages
::::: off topic rant :::::
Just assume no data you store and or traverses any public cloud
service is private or secure this is just silly.
I can't believe people are so naive to believe messages sent over the
public Internet isn't intercepted stored and analyzed by the same
government bodies who gave it to us in the first place.
I've always heard rumors as a kid that the NSA had systems long in
place that could record all voice calls based on certain key phrases
ever since the Nixon era so please tell me why are most people shocked
with all the spying by governments?
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 11, 2013, at 2:39 PM, Warren Bailey
<wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com> wrote:
> Anyone else planning on bailing from office365?
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> http://m.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/11/microsoft-nsa-collaboration-use=
r-data
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> Sent from my Mobile Device.
