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Re: Network Operators and smurf

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jay R. Ashworth)
Fri Apr 24 19:06:31 1998

Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 18:55:53 -0400
From: "Jay R. Ashworth" <jra@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <v03007808b166c23bd41f@[198.3.136.121]>; from Dean Anderson <dean@av8.com> on Fri, Apr 24, 1998 at 06:39:28PM -0400

On Fri, Apr 24, 1998 at 06:39:28PM -0400, Dean Anderson wrote:
> >Dean, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
> 
> There isn't a simple knob, but then it isn't simple to know what a forgery
> is. You to have tell the router.  The router doesn't know what you and
> other people "own", but you can tell it.  I'd say there isn't a way to make
> a simple on/off knob for that, because there isn't any way to tell who you
> will transit for and who you won't.
> 
> Or, another perhaps better way is to only accept packets from your customer
> networks which are sourced from those networks.  Each customer interface
> then has an inbound filter the blocks everything not sourced from your
> customers network.

That was the idea.  I was, as noted, mostly talking about router
interfaces with only one network (block) behind it.  I gather a large
part of it comes from dialups, where the remote network is a /32.

in any event, I'm not sure I made the query explicit enough, from a
couple of replies I got: the knob I'm specifically interested in says
"don't forward packets with source addresses that can't be routed back
out this port".

Cheers,
-- jra
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