[164179] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Google's QUIC
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher Morrow)
Fri Jun 28 17:01:45 2013
In-Reply-To: <op.wzepfmcs4oyyg1@alvarezp-ws>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 16:57:48 -0400
From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
To: Octavio Alvarez <alvarezp@alvarezp.ods.org>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Octavio Alvarez
<alvarezp@alvarezp.ods.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 13:39:04 -0700, Christopher Morrow
> <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Octavio Alvarez
>> <alvarezp@alvarezp.ods.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Sounds like a UDP replacement. If this is true, then OS-level support
>>> will
>>> be needed. If they are on this, then it's the perfect opportunity to fix
>>> some other problems with the Internet in general.
>>
>>
>> I'm no genius, but doesn't the article say it's UDP? (in the name of
>> the protocol even)
>
>
> I was trying to emphasize "replacement", not UDP. This is, that works on
> the same layer, that requires OS-level modifications, as opposed to a
again... not a super smart on this stuff, but..
why does it require OS modifications? isn't this just going be
'chrome' (or 'other application') asking for a udp socket and spewing
line-rate-foo out of that? isn't the application going to be doing all
of the multiplexing and jankiness?
> protocol that could be similar to UDP but work on the application layer.
it's not 'similar to UDP', it is in fact UDP, from what I read in the article.
> My point was that all that work could be focused on a *really* good
> transport (even with end-user multihoming without bloating the routing
how's that sctp going for you?
lisp?
sham6?
> table), and have streamlined TCP and UDP that takes advantage of the new
> protocol.
sure, ilnp?
> Everyone's calling upon SCTP. Implementing similar techniques on multiple
> transport protocols calls for a transport-session separation.
right, and the 1 application using sctp is so wide spread we've all
heard of it even.
possibly this will be a similar diversion into protocol/application
testing even.
-chris
