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RE: Service provider T1/PPP question
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Naslund, Steve)
Fri Jun 28 15:57:19 2013
From: "Naslund, Steve" <SNaslund@medline.com>
To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 19:56:57 +0000
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ricky Beam [mailto:jfbeam@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:45 PM
To: NANOG list; Mike
Subject: Re: Service provider T1/PPP question
On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 00:07:45 -0400, Mike <mike-nanog@tiedyenetworks.com>
wrote:
>> I am wanting to offer a broadband over T1 service and have the ...
>s/broadband/internet/
>A T1 is miles away from "broadband" these days.
>Having done this with Cisco gear (*years* ago), you want to avoid MLPPP wh=
enever possible. We did CEF per-packet when the CPE end was also Cisco; it=
worked perfectly with none of the restrictions or bugs.
>--Ricky
I think this post seems like a flashback. I would not consider a T-1 to re=
ally be broadband anymore and it is pretty much limited to a business envir=
onment the way tariffs work. As far as MLPPP, it seems to be pretty stable=
now where you need multiple bonded T-1s. We have a few sites running MLPP=
P with Sprint on Juniper and Cisco gear and have not had an issue with it. =
It is definitely not my preference for business connectivity anymore. We =
tend to look for Ethernet service which is way cheaper per mb than T-1 and =
requires less expensive terminal equipment in most cases. T-1s are the bus=
iness solution where you need dedicated MPLS connectivity and fiber transpo=
rt is not available. DSL or Internet VPN are OK but somewhat less stable f=
or business class private network solutions. If it is internet connectivit=
y they want you will get beaten up by the cable companies that can outrun a=
nd outprice you across the board. You will also have a heck of a time comp=
eting with incumbent and competitive telecoms in T-1s that have central off=
ices or collocations in central offices. The economics just don't work if =
you don't have direct access to the cable plant. Maybe up until the teleco=
m act but not now. How do you intend to get those T-1s back to you or are =
you a CLEC?
Steven Naslund
