[164122] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Assistance for Eavesdropping Legally on Avian Carriers (AELAC)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jason Hellenthal)
Tue Jun 25 23:56:55 2013
In-Reply-To: <alpine.GSO.2.00.1306252252020.20056@clifden.donelan.com>
From: Jason Hellenthal <jhellenthal@dataix.net>
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 23:54:16 -0400
To: Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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Matter of fact the sky is full of lightening right now...
Anyone got a pentagram packet and a weje board ?
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Jason Hellenthal
Inbox: jhellenthal@DataIX.net
Voice: +1 (616) 953-0176
JJH48-ARIN
On Jun 25, 2013, at 22:58, Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com> wrote:
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> On Tue, 25 Jun 2013, Nick Khamis wrote:
>> We are however trying to conform to RFC standards as pointed out by
>> Jev. You guys really need to look at this. It's easily implementable:
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>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1149
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> That remind me I need to finish my April 1 submission to the RFC editor
> for next year..... This has been sitting in my todo pile for several
> years.
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> RFCxxxx for publication on April 1, xxxx
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> Assistance for Eavesdropping Legally on Avian Carriers (AELAC)
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> Abstract
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> The memo provides an overview and principles regarding Lawful Intercept(LI=
) of networks using RFC 1149, "A Standard for the Transmission of IP Datagra=
ms on Avian Carriers." National requirements are not addressed.
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> Overview and Rational
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> Avian Carriers have not provided law enforcement with advanced capabilitie=
s to conduct covert surveillance of a subject's communications. When approac=
hed by law enforcement, Avian Carriers take flight leaving behind difficult t=
o decode droppings of their activities. Identifying a specific packet stream=
within a large flock of carriers is difficult. Due to the 3D ether space av=
ailable to carriers and their intrinsic collision avoidance systems, althoug=
h sometimes poorly implemented with windows, performing full content communi=
cations interceptions can be hit or miss.
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> This memo does not address specific national requirements for eavesdroppin=
g. Nevertheless, it may be important to public safety that carriers never us=
e any communication technology which could hinder law enforcement.s access t=
o the communications of a subject of a lawful order authorizing surveillance=
.
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> Avian Carriers have a long and distinguished history in communications. Fo=
r thousands of years they have been used to carry important messages to mili=
tary and business leaders. However, they have also been used for nefarious p=
urposes ranging from possible financial market manipulation after Napoleo's d=
efeat at Waterloo to reports of enemy pigeons operating in England during Wo=
rld War II.
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