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Re: Are undersea cables tapped before they get to ISP's? [was Re:
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (=?utf-8?B?TcOlbnM=?= Nilsson)
Tue Jun 25 10:54:01 2013
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 16:53:32 +0200
From: =?utf-8?B?TcOlbnM=?= Nilsson <mansaxel@besserwisser.org>
To: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Are undersea cables tapped before they get to ISP's? [was Re: =
Security over SONET/SDH] Date: Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 10:38:30AM -0400 Quotin=
g Christopher Morrow (morrowc.lists@gmail.com):
> > It's potentially a lot simpler than that:
> >
> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ivy_Bells>
>=20
> this involved, I think, just intuiting signals from the nearfield
> effects of the cable, no? 'drop a large sensor ontop-of/next-to the
> cable, win!'
IVY BELLS (USN is / was an ALL-CAPS org, right?) was a copper era
project, and it did use EMI tapping (TEMPEST) to get to the traffic
without tampering with the cable.
Having gotten that cleared, I'd argue that if you're on speaking terms
with the cable operator, it is much easier to use a full-spectrum
monitor port on the WDM system.
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