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Re: Security over SONET/SDH

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (joel jaeggli)
Mon Jun 24 22:26:29 2013

Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 19:25:52 -0700
From: joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com>
To: surfer@mauigateway.com, nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <20130624131903.D485E06D@m0005296.ppops.net>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On 6/24/13 1:19 PM, Scott Weeks wrote:
>
> ------------ joelja@bogus.com wrote: ------------
> From: joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com>
>
>> That's why I'm trying to follow up on the original question.  Is
>> there something similar the global public can use to secure their
>> connections that is not government designed.  This is even more
>> important on microwave shots when security is desired.
> :: plenty of standardized RF link-layers support strong encryption.
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Ah, thanks.  That comment gave me the the search terms I needed,
> but I keep seeing sentences like this "Due to the encryption
> employed in these products, they are export controlled items and
> are regulated by the Bureau of Industry and Security (BIS) of the
> U.S. Department of Commerce. They may not be exported or shipped
> for re-export to restricted countries..."  wheee! :-)
Yes, however note that the actual number of embargoed countries at this 
point is pretty small, and that if you are in a(n) (US) embargoed 
country and so  inclined you can likely buy such products manufactured 
in China by Chinese companies.

Securing the link layer however is not a replacement for an end to end 
solution so just because it's protecting the air interface(s) doesn't 
really mean somebody not looking at the traffic elsewhere.
> scott
>



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