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RE: Multihop eBGP peering or VPN based eBGP peering

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John van Oppen)
Mon Jun 17 00:30:43 2013

From: John van Oppen <jvanoppen@spectrumnet.us>
To: 'Michael McConnell' <michael@winkstreaming.com>, "nanog@nanog.org"
 <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 04:30:11 +0000
In-Reply-To: <C9860D92-ECFC-46E1-9952-4A6D0203598F@winkstreaming.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

Perhaps I am missing something from your advantage list, but why would you =
want to exchange routing information with a network to which you don't have=
 a connection due to a local failure?    I think you are attempting to abst=
ract routing from the underlying physical infrastructure a bit too much.   =
If the power is out in the carrier pop to which you are connected, they don=
't have a way to give you traffic so why would a multi-hop session help.   =
 =20

BGP being down is rarely something that happens on its own, it is typically=
 due to something far more physical (router failure, pop outage, circuit ou=
tage, etc).  =20

John=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael McConnell [mailto:michael@winkstreaming.com]=20
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 5:40 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Multihop eBGP peering or VPN based eBGP peering

Hello all,

Any idea why more companies don't offer eBGP peering / multi hop peering? I=
ts very common for providers to offer single or double hop peering, so why =
not 5 or 10 hops? In many cases people find it logical to perform single or=
 double hop peering, why is peering any greater always frowned upon. I unde=
rstand the logic that you can't control the path beyond a point, however I =
still see numerous advantages.=20

One obvious advantages one is, imagine you east coast data centre and you h=
ad a eBGP peering session with a west coast router, you'd be able to contro=
l ingress via the west coast. (aka routing around an region outage that is =
effecting ingress) For example during the last hurricane around New Jersey,=
 numerous tier 1's were down towards the atlantic and every peer for the at=
lantic was effected. One could have just made the ingress via the west coas=
t the logical route.=20

Thoughts?

Mike

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