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Re: chargen is the new DDoS tool?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Majdi S. Abbas)
Tue Jun 11 19:57:44 2013

Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 19:57:17 -0400
From: "Majdi S. Abbas" <msa@latt.net>
To: Ricky Beam <jfbeam@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <op.wyjgk0natfhldh@rbeam.xactional.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 07:52:02PM -0400, Ricky Beam wrote:
> All of the above plus very poorly managed network / network
> security. (sadly a Given(tm) for anything ending dot-e-d-u.)  a) why
> are *printers* given public IPs? and b) why are internet hosts
> allowed to talk to them?  I actually *very* surprised your printers
> are still functional if the whole internet can reach them.

	You've never worked for one, have you?

	Guess what, they have /16s, they use them, and they like
the ability to print from one side of campus to the other.  Are you
suggesting gigantic NATs with 120,000 students and faculty behind them?

	I have a hard time blaming a school for this.  I have an easy
time wondering why printer manufacturers are including chargen support
in firmware.

	--msa


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