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Re: chargen is the new DDoS tool?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Leo Bicknell)
Tue Jun 11 15:13:52 2013

From: Leo Bicknell <bicknell@ufp.org>
In-Reply-To: <kp7gbj$it9$1@ger.gmane.org>
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 14:13:15 -0500
To: Bernhard Schmidt <berni@birkenwald.de>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


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On Jun 11, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Bernhard Schmidt <berni@birkenwald.de> =
wrote:

> This seems to be something new. There aren't a lot of systems in our
> network responding to chargen, but those that do have a 15x
> amplification factor and generate more traffic than we have seen with
> abused open resolvers.

The number is non-zero?  In 2013?

While blocking it at your border is probably a fine way of mitigating =
the problem, I would recommend doing an internal nmap scan for such =
things, finding the systems that respond, and talking with their owners.

Please report back to NANOG after talking to them letting us know if the =
owners were still using SunOS 4.x boxes for some reason, had =
accidentally enabled chargen, or if some malware had set up the servers. =
 Inquiring minds would like to know!

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       Leo Bicknell - bicknell@ufp.org - CCIE 3440
        PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/






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