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Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Warren Bailey)
Sat Jun 8 11:27:50 2013

From: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
To: Jimmy Hess <mysidia@gmail.com>, =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E5ns_Nilsson?=
 <mansaxel@besserwisser.org>
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2013 15:27:15 +0000
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Cc: "goemon@anime.net" <goemon@anime.net>, NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Reply-To: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
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They use those very regularly.. There is a widely used model called the KV.


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-------- Original message --------
From: Jimmy Hess <mysidia@gmail.com>
Date: 06/08/2013 4:14 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: M=E5ns Nilsson <mansaxel@besserwisser.org>
Cc: goemon@anime.net,NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project


On 6/7/13, M=E5ns Nilsson <mansaxel@besserwisser.org> wrote:
> Subject: Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project Date: Fri, Jun 0=
7,
> 2013 at 12:25:35AM -0500 Quoting jamie rishaw (j@arpa.com):
>> <tinfoilhat>
>> Just wait until we find out dark and lit private fiber is getting
>> vampired.
>> </tinfoilhat>
> I'm not even assuming it, I'm convinced. In Sweden, we have a law,
> that makes what NSA/FBI did illegal while at the same time legalising,

Perhaps  strong crypto should be implemented on transceivers  at each
end of every link,  so users could be protected from that without
having to implement the crypto themselves at the application layer? :)

--
-JH


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