[163382] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alex Rubenstein)
Fri Jun 7 09:54:05 2013
From: Alex Rubenstein <alex@corp.nac.net>
To: Eugen Leitl <eugen@leitl.org>, "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 09:53:37 -0400
In-Reply-To: <20130607113607.GE2380@leitl.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
> > So, you are comfortable just giving up your right to privacy? It's just=
the way
> it is?
>=20
> If you want to exercise your right to privacy, use end to end encryption =
and
> onion remixing networks to hamper traffic analysis.
Whoa.
These are two completely separate issues. I concur with you whole-heartedly=
; if you have something to keep private or something that is sensitive, pro=
tect it. That is your right, it is legal, and you should do it. I do.
But that DOES NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, in any way make it OK for the U=
SG to ignore the fourth amendment. I should not have to "hamper traffic ana=
lysis" that is analyzing my traffic illegally. That is the bigger point her=
e.
> Everything else is for the hopelessly gullible.
You mean, "Everything else is for the people who are OK with being snooped =
on by the government."
> > I'm sorry, I am not as accepting of that fact as you are. I am disappoi=
nted
> > and disgusted that this is, and has been, going on. Our government is f=
ailing
> > us.
>=20
> What government is this, kemo sabe? Nanog has a global audience.
Fair enough, but I think we all know what I am talking about.=20
