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Re: Canadian Hosting Providers - how do you handle copyright and

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Thu Jun 6 14:09:26 2013

From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <51B01E66.80707@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 11:07:21 -0700
To: Roy <r.engehausen@gmail.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


On Jun 5, 2013, at 22:30 , Roy <r.engehausen@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 6/5/2013 4:40 PM, Nick Khamis wrote:
>> On 6/5/13, Sameer Khosla <skhosla@neutraldata.com> wrote:
>>> My personal favorite is the number of notices that we receive as =
DMCA
>>> takedown notices, citing the specific laws.
>>>=20
>> I'm not sure US copyright laws even apply to us here in Canada?
>> What countries have no internet laws?
>>=20
>> N.
>>=20
>>=20
>=20
> US laws apply where ever the US says they apply.
>=20
How do you figure that?

The US power to enforce US law is limited to:

	1.	US Citizens (pretty much wherever they are, =
unfortunately)
	2.	Things that happen within the borders of the united =
states
	3.	Transactions involving entities within the borders of =
the united states or
		citizens of the US.

Beyond that, their power is supposed to be pretty limited.

> The question is how enforceable the US law is your country.  There is =
probably a Hollywood lobbyist who is insisting on drone strikes on =
servers that offend the DMCA  :-)

One would hope that we would not be so stupid as to carry out a drone =
strike against Canada for DMCA. I'm pretty sure that the current =
administration would not authorize that. As to the previous =
administration, your guess is as good as mine.

Owen



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