[163217] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Geoip lookup
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (shawn wilson)
Sun May 26 00:27:19 2013
In-Reply-To: <8DA1853CE466B041B104C1CAEE00B3748FDFE258@CHAXCH01.corp.arin.net>
From: shawn wilson <ag4ve.us@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 00:26:48 -0400
To: info@cymru.com
Cc: North American Network Operators Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
If anyone is interrested, here's a little Perl CLI util to lookup what
countries registered networks within a block. There's no documentation
yet, it's a .pl where it should probably be a command with a makefile
installer, and Net::CIDR overlaps Net::IP. At any rate, hopefully it
is useful to someone.
https://github.com/ag4ve/geocidr
PS - do note the -mask option (where you can define say, a 20 or 21 or
22) so that you're not sitting there banging on their DNS looking up
tons of /32s for blocks CYMRU doesn't have any information on.
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 6:44 AM, John Curran <jcurran@arin.net> wrote:
> On May 24, 2013, at 10:47 AM, David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org> wrote:
>
>> I replied privately to Owen, but might as well share:
>>
>> On May 23, 2013, at 11:57 PM, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
>>>>>> True, according to (at least some of) the RIRs they reside in region=
s...
>>>>> Really? Which ones? I thought they were only issued to organizations =
that had operations in regions.
>>> That was exactly my point, Bill... If you have operations in RIPE and A=
RIN regions, it is entirely possible for you to obtain addresses from RIPE =
or ARIN and use them in both locations, or, obtain addresses from both RIPE=
and ARIN and use them in their respective regions, or mix and match in jus=
t about any imaginable way. Thus, IP addresses don't reside in regions, eit=
her. They are merely issued somewhat regionally.
>>
>> A direct quote from a recent interaction with ARIN (this was requested b=
y ARIN staff as part of the back and forth for requesting address space):
>>
>> "Please reply and verify that you will be using the requested number res=
ources within the ARIN region and announcing all routing prefixes of the re=
quested space from within the ARIN region. In accordance with section 2.2 o=
f the NRPM, ARIN issues number resources only for use within its region. AR=
IN is therefore only able to provide for your in-region numbering needs."
>>
>> I believe AfriNIC and LACNIC have similar limitations on use but am too =
lazy to look it up (and I don't really care all that much: just thought it =
was amusing).
>
> Indeed. This was covered in more detail in the Policy Experience Report
> given at the ARIN 31, in which it was noted that we are seeing an increas=
e
> in requests for IPv4 address space from parties who have infrastructure i=
n
> the region, but for customers entirely from outside the region. This has
> resulted in a significant change in the issuance rate and therefore any
> estimates for regional free pool depletion. ARIN has sought guidance fro=
m
> the community regarding what constitutes appropriate in-region use, shoul=
d
> this be based on infrastructure or served customers, and whether incident=
al
> use outside the region is appropriate. (This topic was also on this list=
on
> 26 April 2012 - see attached email from that thread) Policy proposals i=
n
> this area to bring further clarity in address management are encouraged.
>
> FYI,
> /John
>
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> ARIN
>
> =3D=3D=3D
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net>
>> Subject: Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM
>> Date: April 26, 2013 10:43:51 AM EDT
>> To: "nanog@nanog.org Group" <nanog@nanog.org>
>>
>> On Apr 26, 2013, at 10:23 AM, Chris Grundemann <cgrundemann@gmail.com> w=
rote:
>>>
>>> One interesting twist in all of this is that several of these new
>>> "slow-start" players in the ARIN region seem to be servicing customers
>>> outside of the region with equipment and services hosted here inside
>>> the ARIN region (see slide 12 on the ARIN 31 "Policy Implementation
>>> and Experience Report"
>>> https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_31/PDF/monday/no=
bile_policy.pdf).
>>
>> NANOG Folks -
>>
>> Please read this slide deck, section noted by Chris. It explains the
>> "situation"... (I would not call the sudden acceleration in IP address
>> issuance a problem, per se, as that is an judgement for the community
>> either way.)
>>
>> FYI,
>> /John
>>
>> John Curran
>> President and CEO
>> ARIN
>
>
>
>
