[162744] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Curran)
Tue Apr 30 23:19:06 2013
From: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net>
To: Jimmy Hess <mysidia@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 03:18:15 +0000
In-Reply-To: <CAAAwwbWDtW13ovDhO8bRKnSqr4Q79t5CVkqwsupumTRO8m2-oA@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Apr 30, 2013, at 10:56 PM, Jimmy Hess <mysidia@gmail.com<mailto:mysidia@=
gmail.com>> wrote:
On Tuesday, April 30, 2013, John Curran wrote:
On Apr 30, 2013, at 1:46 AM, Jimmy Hess <mysidia@gmail.com<javascript:;>> w=
rote:
> On 4/29/13, John Curran <jcurran@arin.net<javascript:;>> wrote:
>> On Apr 29, 2013, at 2:46 PM, Lee Howard <lee@asgard.org<javascript:;>> w=
rote:
>>> On 4/29/13 1:03 AM, "J=E9r=F4me Nicolle" <jerome@ceriz.fr<javascript:;>=
> wrote:
>> specified (based on being singly-homed or multi-homed.) These same
>> criteria now apply to receipt of an address block via transfer, so at
>> regional IPv4 free pool depletion may be _very_ difficult to satisfy.
>
> Huh? Where did that concept come from?
Alas, NRPM 8.3 requires that "the recipient must demonstrate the need for u=
p
to a 24-month supply of IP address resources _under current ARIN policies_ =
..."
This says demonstrate the need for resources.
The "under current policies" bit is redundant, because the transfer policy =
is referring to itself. Of course the current policies always apply; so thi=
s is some strange infinitely recursive oddity.
Jimmy -
Actually, I'm quite confident in the interpretation... Note that the rea=
ding that this language
would require qualification under current IPv4 allocation policies was al=
so confirmed in the
Staff Assessment when the proposed NRPM 8.3 language was under considerat=
ion as a
draft policy - <http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/2011-August/022=
870.html>
It is easy enough to change if desired (and apparently some folks are loo=
king at doing that
per any earlier reply on this thread) but as it stands there is a chance =
that ISPs seeking to
obtain IPv4 space from the transfer market will not be able to participat=
e if they haven't made
use of provider-assigned space first.
FYI,
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
