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Re: IPv6 and HTTPS

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jay Ashworth)
Thu Apr 25 21:57:42 2013

Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 21:47:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com>
To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <20130426013613.GC20036@hiwaay.net>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Adams" <cmadams@hiwaay.net>

> Once upon a time, Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> said:
> > Does anyone know how much IPv4 space is allocated *specifically* to cater
> > to the fact that HTTPS requires a dedicated IP per DNS name?
> >
> > Is that a statistically significant percentage of all the IPs in use?
> 
> I have no numbers, but my gut feeling is that there are a lot more
> eyeballs than web servers with lots of IPs.

Fair point.  Though those are choked behind carriers who may well CGN
them whether the eyeballs like it or not.

> > Wasn't there something going on to make HTTPS IP muxable? How's that
> > coming?
> 
> SNI; RFC 3546
> 
> > How fast could it be deployed?
> 
> The RFC is just shy of 10 years old, so that's like a baby compared to
> IPv6.
> 
> It is mostly deployed, but there's still a fair number of old clients
> that don't support it. WinXP+IE is probably the biggest fail, followed
> by Android < 3.0 and BlackBerry.

When you say "it is mostly deployed", what exactly do you mean?  Is it 
layer 7 or 4?  Does it live in libraries that can be upgraded behind
users' backs?  Or is it actually in the browser proper?  Or are you just 
talking about the server-side of the equation?

Cheers,
-- jra
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