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Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brandon Ross)
Thu Apr 25 13:10:51 2013

Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 13:10:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brandon Ross <bross@pobox.com>
To: Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com>
In-Reply-To: <51794ABF.5040209@mtcc.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On Thu, 25 Apr 2013, Michael Thomas wrote:

> So here is the question I have: when we run out, is there *anything* that
> will reasonably allow an ISP to *not* deploy carrier grade NAT?

Do you count NAT64 or MAP as carrier grade NAT?

> One thing that occurs to me though is that it's sort of in an ISP's interest
> to deploy v6 on the client side because each new v6 site that lights up on
> the internet side is less traffic forced through the CGN gear which is 
> ultimately
> a cost down. So maybe an alternative to a death penalty is a molasses 
> penalty:
> make the CGN experience operable but bad/congested/slow :)

Hm, sounds like NAT64 or MAP to me (although, honestly, we may end up 
making MAP "too good".)

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