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Re: Verizon DSL moving to CGN

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mikael Abrahamsson)
Mon Apr 8 06:01:40 2013

Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 12:01:24 +0200 (CEST)
From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
To: "Rajiv Asati (rajiva)" <rajiva@cisco.com>
In-Reply-To: <8BEC0BF0-D130-46F6-8C2E-A5E982588555@cisco.com>
Cc: nanog list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On Mon, 8 Apr 2013, Rajiv Asati (rajiva) wrote:

> Thankfully, MAP is not CGN. Correctly stated, unlike DS-Lite, MAP 
> doesn't require any CGN that causes the SP network to put up with the 
> NAT state. This means that all the subsequent issues of CGN/DS-Lite no 
> longer apply.

For me as an operator, MAP is most likely going to be implemented in a 
CGN-like box. Yes, it's stateless. Doesn't matter, I still need to flow 
traffic through a dedicated box because MAP won't be implemented in my 
regular routers (if you know otherwise, please speak up).

> MAP is all about stateless (NAT64 of Encapsulation) and IPv6 enabled 
> access. MAP makes much more sense in any SP network having its internet 
> customers do IPv4 address sharing and embrace IPv6.

It's still NAT.

-- 
Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se


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