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Re: Verizon DSL moving to CGN

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Constantine A. Murenin)
Sat Apr 6 22:11:24 2013

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Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 19:11:14 -0700
From: "Constantine A. Murenin" <mureninc@gmail.com>
To: "cb.list6" <cb.list6@gmail.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On 6 April 2013 18:24, cb.list6 <cb.list6@gmail.com> wrote:
> Interesting.
>
> http://www22.verizon.com/support/residential/internet/highspeedinternet/n=
etworking/troubleshooting/portforwarding/123897.htm

<blockquote>

> What is  CGN - and How to opt-out The number and types of devices using t=
he Internet have increased dramatically in recent years and, as a result, a=
ddress space for these devices is being rapidly exhausted. Today=92s techno=
logy for IP addresses is referred to as IPv4 (Internet Protocol version 4).=
 The IP addresses aligned with IPv4 are expected to be depleted at some poi=
nt in the near future. The next generation of IP address space is IPv6, whi=
ch will enable far more addresses to be assigned than IPv4. Unfortunately, =
most servers and other Internet devices will not be speaking IPv6 for a whi=
le, so IPv4 will remain standard for some time to come.
>
> During this transitional period, in select areas for High Speed Internet =
residential customers, Verizon will be implementing Carrier Grade Network A=
ddress Translation (CGN or Carrier Grade NAT). Verizon FiOS and Verizon Bus=
iness customers are not impacted at this time by the change. This transitio=
n will enable Verizon to continue serving customers with IPv4 internet addr=
esses. CGN will not impact the access, reliability, speed, or security of V=
erizon=92s broadband services. However, there are some applications such as=
 online gaming, VPN access, FTP service, surveillance cameras, etc., that m=
ay not work when broadband service is provided via a CGN.
>
> For our customers utilizing these types of applications, Verizon provides=
 the ability to "opt out =93of CGN. To "opt out" you must:
>
>     Be a Residential customer with High Speed Internet Service. There is =
no need to =93opt-out=94 if you are a FiOS or Business customer.
>     Have already been transitioned to the Carrier Grade Network by Verizo=
n. If you are a Residential High Speed Internet customer and are unable to =
opt-out, it is likely that you have not yet been transitioned to CGN.
>
>
> To "opt out" of CGN sign onto your My Verizon account and select "Opt out=
 of Carrier Grade Network".

</blockquote>


I like how, according to the document, Verizon must first break your
connectivity, prior to you being able to opt-out. :-)

Also:

> select "Opt out of Carrier Grade Network"

Smart wording. :-)

Frankly, I'm surprised to see this news.  I thought Verizon had better
things to do that plan any kind of upgrades or changes to something
that everyone thought they consider dead anyways.

C.


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