[162109] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: RFC 1149
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Bellovin)
Tue Apr 2 18:45:13 2013
From: Steven Bellovin <smb@cs.columbia.edu>
In-Reply-To: <55A3CE6F-6688-47A4-94B9-E0B7A2DF9B77@delong.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 18:44:57 -0400
To: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
Cc: 'NANOG' <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
DLT? I first heard it as a station wagon full of (9-track, 1600 bpi,
that having been the state of the art) mag tapes on the Taconic Parkway,
circa 1970. I suspect, though, that Herman Hollerith expressed the idea
about a stage coach full of punchcards, back in the 1880s.
On Apr 2, 2013, at 3:41 PM, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
> "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a 747 full of DLT cartridges."
>
> Owen
>
> On Apr 2, 2013, at 11:31 , "Scott Berkman" <scott@sberkman.net> wrote:
>
>> Hey careful, Pigeons have won this fight before:
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8248056.stm
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: George Herbert [mailto:george.herbert@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 10:37 PM
>> To: Jeff Kell
>> Cc: NANOG
>> Subject: Re: RFC 1149
>>
>> Packets, shmackets. I'm just upset that my BGP over Semaphore Towers
>> routing protocol extension hasn't been experimentally validated yet.
>>
>> Whoever you are who keeps flying pigeons between my test towers, you can't
>> deliver packets without proper routing updates! Knock it off long enough
>> for me to converge the #@$#$@ routing table...
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Jeff Kell <jeff-kell@utc.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/1/2013 10:15 PM, Eric Adler wrote:
>>>> Make sure you don't miss the QoS implementation of RFC 2549 (and
>>>> make
>>> sure
>>>> that you're ready to implement RFC 6214). You'll be highly
>>>> satisfied
>>> with
>>>> the results (presuming you and your packets end up in one of the
>>>> higher quality classes).
>>>> I'd also suggest a RFC 2322 compliant DHCP server for devices inside
>>>> the hurricane zone, but modified by implementing zip ties such that
>>>> the C47s aren't released under heavy (wind or water) loads.
>>>
>>> Actually, given recent events, I'd emphasize and advocate RFC3514
>>> (http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3514.txt) which I think is LONG overdue
>>> for adoption. The implementation would forego most of the currently
>>> debated topics as related to network abuse or misuse :)
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> -george william herbert
>> george.herbert@gmail.com
>>
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>
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--Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb
