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Re: SMURF amplifier block list - READ THIS

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mark Milhollan)
Wed Apr 15 00:25:26 1998

To: nanog@merit.edu
In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:22:42 -0500.
             <19980414172242.43601@mcs.net> 
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:16:57 -0700
From: Mark Milhollan <mlm@ftel.net>

Karl Denninger writes:
>A T1 connected person launching a smurf can burn down an OC-12 if they 
>can find amplifiers with enough outbound capacity.

Which is to say a dozen well connected DS-3 networks -- not that hard
to find at all.  Thankfully that number seems to be dwindling rapidly. 
This will eventually degenerate to attackers searching for many dozens
of DS-1 networks that are open, so small providers/customers should be
educated as well.


>The *ONLY* long-term fix for smurfing is to prohibit directed broadcasts, 

I believe it has to include ingress source address validation.


The overall problem remains, getting others to deny spoofing and
directed broadcast responses can only be done though communication --
and sometimes excommunication is all that can be heard.

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