[161933] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Tier 2 ingress filtering
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jay Ashworth)
Thu Mar 28 15:06:19 2013
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 15:05:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <53436.1364492865@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Valdis Kletnieks" <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu>
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 17:16:48 -0000, bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com
> said:
> >
> > is there a clear understanding of "the edge" in the network operations
> > community? in a simpler world, it was not that difficult, but interconnect
> > has blossomed and grown all sorts of noodly appendages/extentions. I
> > fear that edge does not mean what you think it means anymore.
>
> For 5 9's worth of eyeball networks hanging off consumer-grade ADSL and cable
> connections, it's still the edge and still trivially filterable. If that's a
> problem, the ISP can upsell a business-class connection that doesn't
> filter. ;)
C'mon guys: the edge is where people who *source and sink* packets
connect to people who *move* packets. There may be some edges *inside*
carriers, but there is certainly an edge where carriers hook up customers.
And no, this should apply to business-grade connections as much as resi.
Cheers,
-- jra
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