[161881] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: BCP38 - Internet Death Penalty
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Curran)
Wed Mar 27 18:31:49 2013
From: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net>
To: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 22:31:32 +0000
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Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Mar 27, 2013, at 4:54 PM, Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>
wrote:
>> Umm... How many North American ISP's/datacenters/web hosting firms were=
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>> aware of the BCP 38 development as it was on-going, and participated in=
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>> some manner in its review? ...
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> I'd say enough were aware. :-)
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> 8. Acknowledgments
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> The North American Network Operators Group (NANOG) [5] group as a
> whole deserves special credit for openly discussing these issues and
> actively seeking possible solutions. Also, thanks to Justin Newton
> [Priori Networks] and Steve Bielagus [IronBridge Networks]. for
> their comments and contributions.
Mark -=20
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That's plenty of consideration for voluntary efforts (which is what
we've tried to date in various forums with rather limited success...)
Whether that's sufficient notice and consideration on which to base
mandatory requirements from a public policy perspective is not clear.
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Frankly, I would suggest that NANOG document a best common operating=20
practice (BCOP) based on BCP38 (written at a somewhat higher level=20
which describes what types of connections ingress filtering it applies
to, e.g. consumer edge, business, transit, etc.; whether it should=20
be just a customer default or an absolute requirement, etc.), and=20
then holding an approval process to make the result a NANOG BCOP...
<http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog57/presentations/Monday/mon.general.G=
rundemann.BCOP.12.pdf>
If this were done in a fairly formal manner, the result would be closer
to the prior example (National Fire Protection Association code) and=20
would far more convincing both in aiding governments to pick up this=20
cause in the region, as well as encouraging similar efforts elsewhere.
FYI,
/John
