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Re: SMURF amplifier block list

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Karl Denninger)
Tue Apr 14 16:42:34 1998

Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:29:13 -0500
From: Karl Denninger  <karl@mcs.net>
To: Stephen Sprunk <sprunk@paranet.com>
Cc: Aaron Beck <abeck@falcon.org>, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <3533C63E.7ABB2BD6@paranet.com>; from Stephen Sprunk on Tue, Apr 14, 1998 at 03:25:34PM -0500

Good point.

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On Tue, Apr 14, 1998 at 03:25:34PM -0500, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
> Are we really concerned about being smurfed by a /30, or even a /27?
> 
> The essential problem is backbone class-C's, especially those in NAPs
> where coordination is nearly impossible.  Smaller subnets tend to be in
> small ISPs' or customers' networks, which don't pose a threat since they
> lack the bandwidth for an effective attack.
> 
> Stephen
> 
> 
> Karl Denninger wrote:
> > 
> > The larger problem is that subnetted /24s still are wide open.  This kind of
> > filter won't block anything from their broadcast addresses, since they're
> > not the .255 address.
> > 
> 
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