[161790] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: BCP38 - Internet Death Penalty
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mark Andrews)
Tue Mar 26 22:46:35 2013
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
From: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>
In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 26 Mar 2013 22:14:47 EDT."
<8277.1364350487@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 13:40:55 +1100
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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In message <8277.1364350487@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu w
rites:
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> On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:01:25 +1100, Mark Andrews said:
> >
> > If you are with a ISP that does not practice BCP 38 are you willing
> > to risk your neck that you won't be subject to a "aiding and abetting"
> > charge? All of us here know that spoofing address like this is a
> > criminal activity.
>
> So what you're saying is that every single person who ran the spoofing
> program to help the SAIL guys gather data is a criminal?
See my response to Jay. I did not present this as a absolute.
Surveying which connections are open to address spoofing may or may
not be a criminal activity. It all depends on intent of the person
gathering the data.
Mark
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