[161777] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: BCP38 - Internet Death Penalty
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jay Ashworth)
Tue Mar 26 21:43:56 2013
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:43:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com>
To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <20130327010126.39F7D319628F@drugs.dv.isc.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Andrews" <marka@isc.org>
> If you are with a ISP that does not practice BCP 38 are you willing
> to risk your neck that you won't be subject to a "aiding and abetting"
> charge? All of us here know that spoofing address like this is a
> criminal activity. We are all experts in the field and the courts
> apply higher standards to us than they do to Joe Blogs. We know
> machines get compromised. We know how to block spoofed traffic
> from compromised machines.
Careful: source address spoofing, like using a name you don't have on your
driver license *is not inherently a crime*. *Fraudulent behaviour which
is advanced thereby* makes it an additional crime.
SAS is sometimes necessary for testing.
Cheers,
-- jra
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Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com
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