[161553] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: using ARIN IP space outside of ARIN region
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Curran)
Tue Mar 19 16:23:52 2013
From: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net>
To: Bill Woodcock <woody@pch.net>
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 20:23:33 +0000
In-Reply-To: <9D2644DD-00D0-4A34-B87B-B8375EAD0B6B@pch.net>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Mar 18, 2013, at 4:49 PM, Bill Woodcock <woody@pch.net> wrote:
> HOWEVER, we've been told in the past that space received from ARIN and us=
ed outside the ARIN region did not qualify as "utilization" for the purpose=
s of justifying new allocations, nor were locations outside the ARIN region=
entitled to new allocations. We were told to get space for POPs outside o=
f ARIN's region from the other respective RIRs. And indeed, those other RI=
Rs have, by and large, been quite cooperative with giving us space for use =
within their regions, even in the cases when we had no business incorporate=
d entity within their region.
Bill -=20
You are correct, with respect to ARIN's handling of requests which
span regions:
- If an organization requests resources for use outside of the=20
ARIN region, we would deny the request and refer them to the=20
appropriate RIR.
- If an organization requests space for both in region and out=20
of region use, we will generally only allow them to obtain=20
the space for the portion of request that will be used in=20
the region, based on utilization of existing blocks in the
region.
- We will not count space issued by another RIR as justification=20
for an initial allocation request from ARIN.
Clearly, issuance of address space across regions is an issue which=20
is becoming more interesting in recent years. We have noted this in
past Policy Experience Reports, and hope to discuss it more at the=20
upcoming ARIN 31 meeting, so that the community can see if any policy=20
changes are appropriate or would simplify processing of these requests.
Thanks!
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
