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Re: [c-nsp] DNS amplification

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dobbins, Roland)
Tue Mar 19 15:06:22 2013

From: "Dobbins, Roland" <rdobbins@arbor.net>
To: "nanog@nanog.org Group" <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:03:03 +0000
In-Reply-To: <20130319185033.GA58609@ussenterprise.ufp.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


On Mar 20, 2013, at 1:50 AM, Leo Bicknell wrote:

> What I find interesting is that there hasn't been a stronger move to deco=
uple control-plane from forwarding plane.

Given the design of TCP/IP and the routing protocols, we can't really achie=
ve true separation at the protocol level.  They simply aren't intended to w=
ork with fully de-coupled, separated signal and bearer, in old-style termin=
ology.
loud
As for RP interchangeability in terms of hardware, there's no economic ince=
ntive for vendors to do this, as you say.  And the designs of RP/backplane/=
linecard=20
are highly interdependent.

Here's some of the initial thinking which led to the promulgation of LISP:

<http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog37/presentations/vince-fuller.pdf>

As others have noted, there are a lot of other advantages to separating loc=
ator from EID; with a system like LISP, one gains potentially very useful m=
echanisms for protocol transitions (i.e., IPv4 to IPv6), network mobility, =
'cloud'-type applications, etc.

But the thoughts contained in that preso comprise a great deal of the origi=
nal motivation.

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