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Re: [c-nsp] DNS amplification

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Conrad)
Tue Mar 19 14:44:41 2013

From: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>
In-Reply-To: <CAL9jLaZL+E4=3Peo_kvOp0f4fOQW3tKUMZFZoUVawqStH_nnyA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:44:12 -0700
To: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org Group" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

Chris,

On Mar 19, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Christopher Morrow =
<morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> I also think we don't have to do this 'today', but getting the right
> plans in place to migrate in the right direction seems like an ok plan
> too.

+1

For that plan I personally like the idea of the layer of indirection =
separating identification from location as I see it having lots of =
benefits like scalability, site multi-homing without BGP-fu, provider =
independence, etc. albeit at a complexity/performance cost.  The =
advantage I see in LISP(-like) approaches is that it pushes that cost =
out to the edge where all you need to do is give your hamsters vitamins, =
leaving the core untouched.

>> In the US alone there are 6M SMEs with payrolls (21M without). =
Perhaps router vendors should adopt Doritos motto: "crunch all you want, =
we'll make more"...
>=20
> no doubt, this is marshall's numbers (or a form of them) from ~7+ yrs =
ago now?

I suppose from the same source =
(http://www.census.gov/econ/smallbus.html)

> anyway, we seem to mostly agree, which again makes me realize I'm not =
crazy...

The more likely alternative is that we both are.

> but I stil have wine and sandwiches, come along with jabley and I?

I'll bring the deep fried hamster.

Regards,
-drc



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