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Re: WW: Bruce Schneier on why security can't work
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eugen Leitl)
Tue Mar 19 04:07:41 2013
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:07:30 +0100
From: Eugen Leitl <eugen@leitl.org>
To: Jimmy Hess <mysidia@gmail.com>, NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 06:31:03PM -0500, Jimmy Hess wrote:
> On 3/18/13, Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> wrote:
> [snip]
> > In the next 3 years, it will become possible to build an autonomously
> > navigating aircraft that can a) cross the Atlantic and b) carry a
> > nuclear weapon.
>
> Not only is it already possible to build a human manually navigated aircraft
> that can do both (a), and (b), they already exist, and computer
Or you could use a shipping container, or just bring in the parts
in hand luggage, and assemble on site.
> autonomy isn't necessary or useful, to hit a single big target; now
> computer autonomous aircraft that can do only (a) could be just as
> useful as decoys.
>
> Nuclear weapons are rare, expensive, and the existing ones are
Far from expensive, a bargain-basement version would only
cost you 100 kUSD in materials. Even at MUSD level, the
kill costs at about 1 USD/kill is extremely cost-effective.
> (hopefully) well-secured, due to their extremely high value. I
> would be more concerned about the possibility of a large swarm -- of
> half a million solar powered drones of the approximate size of a
> large eagle capable of crossing the oceans and releasing a spray of
> bio agents over very large distances.
