[161514] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: using ARIN IP space outside of ARIN region
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bill Woodcock)
Mon Mar 18 18:49:49 2013
From: Bill Woodcock <woody@pch.net>
In-Reply-To: <9F4D4FC766780045A8E7ECEA533A1A8D0354F527@CORPTPMAIL03.corp.theplatform.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:49:37 -0700
To: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Mar 18, 2013, at 3:41 PM, Andy Litzinger =
<Andy.Litzinger@theplatform.com> wrote:
> We're looking at building into a DC in Europe this year and I wanted =
to run a few questions by the community and make sure I'm not too far =
off course.
> We currently have v4 space from ARIN and operate a multihomed =
datacenter in the US. This thread from September 2012, though the =
reverse of my situation, makes it seem like I should be able to work =
with ARIN to satisfy all of our v4 and v6 needs regardless of where in =
the world I plan to advertise the space. Obviously this would be really =
convenient for us since we already have a relationship with ARIN. =
http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2012-September/052137.html
Note that I am speaking here as an ARIN member and resource-recipient =
(PCH), AND NOT as an ARIN board member. I have no inside track on the =
interpretation of ARIN rules, and don't pretend to.
> So my questions are:
> * Is it ok/recommended to advertise v4 ARIN space (say a /23) to my =
upstream ISPs in Europe?=20
We do so, without any problems.
> * Is it ok/recommended to advertise v6 ARIN space to my upstream ISPs =
in Europe?
We do so, without any problems.
> * Should I use a single AS for both North America and European data =
centers?
We do so, without any problems.
HOWEVER, we've been told in the past that space received from ARIN and =
used outside the ARIN region did not qualify as "utilization" for the =
purposes of justifying new allocations, nor were locations outside the =
ARIN region entitled to new allocations. We were told to get space for =
POPs outside of ARIN's region from the other respective RIRs. And =
indeed, those other RIRs have, by and large, been quite cooperative with =
giving us space for use within their regions, even in the cases when we =
had no business incorporated entity within their region.
This experience is two or three years old, now, so interpretation and =
policy changes may have had some effect since then.
-Bill
