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Re: WW: Bruce Schneier on why security can't work

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Thu Mar 14 20:56:31 2013

From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <3665.1363307960@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 17:53:56 -0700
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

Not really anything all that new from a conceptual perspective:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D3hZo5k0V9M0

Owen

On Mar 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 19:56:51 -0400, Miles Fidelman said:
>=20
>> I think that's six words - twice as scary.  I dunno how to fix it =
either
>> ("when in trouble, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout?")
>=20
> I don't think script kiddies with gene sequencers will manage to kill =
us
> with Ebola, for the same reason that script kiddies haven't managed to
> kill the Internet - by the time they figure out how to not kill =
themselves
> with the Ebola, they usually figure out that it's a losing proposition
> (consider the number of nation states that *could* deploy biological =
weapons
> compared to the number that actually have).
>=20
> Anybody seriously thing the RBN couldn't kill the Internet if they =
really
> wanted to?  Why don't they? Because they can't monetize a dead =
Internet.
>=20
> Having said that, we probably *will* see a number of incidents where =
the
> biohazard cleanup crews have to clean up a local mess...



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