[1614] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Policy Statement on Address Space Allocations
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Forrest W. Christian)
Sat Jan 27 04:00:37 1996
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 01:54:52 -0700 (MST)
From: "Forrest W. Christian" <forrestc@imach.com>
To: Vadim Antonov <avg@sprint.net>
cc: cidrd@iepg.org, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <199601270715.CAA06733@titan.sprintlink.net>
On Sat, 27 Jan 1996, Vadim Antonov wrote:
> You may want to ask Sean to send you a copy of SL-MAE-E's configuration.
> There already are *huge* filter lists, just to maintain sanity of
> routing.
That would be quite informative, actually. I might just drop him a note,
if he has time to read it with all of this stuff going on her in cidrd
and nanog.
> >I doubt you're going to need to add many filters :)
>
> Heh. Never underestimate the laziness (overworkiness, underpaidness,
> or just plain cluelessness) of netadmins.
True, and of course it wouldn't be their fault that they ignored the
message. But it would make for some interesting stories...
> It is not the tools, it is the politics. Getting rid of nukes
> completely is a nice goal. Does anybody seriously think it can
> be done today? Not until we see the last of Kings and Presidents
> (not mentioning Senators and other Servants of the people).
>
> A net.politzai is a very unrewarding role, potentially leading
> to real lawsuits. Passive filtering with well-announced policy
> at least gives no food for lawyers. Sprint's policies are
> a result of extensive consultations between engineering, marketing
> and legal people (and activist customers), and is a way for Sprint
> to protect its own network from the routing collapse.
I'm starting to understand a few more of the underlying issues here.
It's not just a "balance the allocations vs the table size and figure out
how to deal with the people who announce a /18 as 64 /24's..." issue.
It's how to do the above and not get sued or otherwise trampled on...
Thanks,-forrest
