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Re: What Should an Engineer Address when 'Selling' IPv6 to Executives?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jared Mauch)
Wed Mar 6 23:37:13 2013

From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
In-Reply-To: <95F2D89E-AF5C-431B-86F5-859EBB53B8AA@arbor.net>
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 23:36:50 -0500
To: "Dobbins, Roland" <rdobbins@arbor.net>
Cc: NANOG General Mail List <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


On Mar 6, 2013, at 11:31 PM, "Dobbins, Roland" <rdobbins@arbor.net> =
wrote:

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> On Mar 7, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Jerry Klonaper wrote:
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>> It wasn't due to the lack of selling to executives, as this thread =
contends can be done, but due to the lack of any business case that =
could be found.
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> Is the deployment in such a state that rollout can be resumed if/when =
it's deemed a priority?
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> Another possible approach might be to utilize IPv6 for BYOD wireless - =
it's sort of the ultimate in device segregation.


The big problem I have (and with our own IT group) is that their network =
doesn't provide IPv6 yet we have offered it as a commercial service for =
a decade or more.  This limits the ability to troubleshoot and dog-food =
the IPv6 network when using their resources.  This means we stand up our =
own resources because they are unable to meet our needs.  This is =
natural in many businesses, you work around what is broken or missing to =
get things done.

I would pitch it as follows: We need to at least have IPv6 access to =
troubleshoot/understand customers that have dual-stack technology.  I =
found banks that would return NXDOMAIN instead of NOERROR when you asked =
for their domain name.  This caused many problems until they corrected =
it.  I actually got in contact with someone there by calling their whois =
contact.  Was amazed that worked, but was a happy surprise.

- Jared=


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