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RE: Comcast NOC Contact

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Vinod K)
Sun Mar 3 16:08:05 2013

From: Vinod K <vinod408@hotmail.com>
To: <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 20:35:03 +0000
In-Reply-To: <BAY158-W649C199D86821858A4DEDBD4F90@phx.gbl>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


What congested links r u seeing?

When we contacted Comcast for peering=2C Ren Provo explain that ratios r ba=
lanced b/c of their media and cloud products... imbalance is common misunde=
rstanding.

Vinod

> From: wingcomm@hotmail.com
> To: jra@baylink.com=3B nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: RE: Comcast NOC Contact
> Date: Sun=2C 3 Mar 2013 14:35:59 -0500
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> Yeah=2C I've been hitting congested links with several of my customers. T=
his was just a case of one of our customer's prefixes taking an extra long =
journey from one region to another.
> Thank you to all who responded! I think we might on our way to remediatin=
g this small issue!
> -Rob
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> > Date: Sun=2C 3 Mar 2013 11:03:10 -0500
> > From: jra@baylink.com
> > To: nanog@nanog.org
> > Subject: Re: Comcast NOC Contact
> >=20
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > On Mar 3=2C 2013=2C at 7:40 AM=2C Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org> wro=
te:
> >=20
> > > > For providers who have an overall asymmetric traffic profile toward=
s
> > > > Comcast=2C it's a matter of perspective as to whether you view this=
 as
> > > > the providers sending Comcast traffic or Comcast customers pulling =
it.
> > > > So it's hardly surprising that there are disagreements about who ge=
ts to pay
> > > > the other for the interconnection arrangements.
> >=20
> > Saying that it's a matter of perspective is a false dichotomy.
> >=20
> > If the providers go away=2C the Comcast customers will pull traffic fro=
m=20
> > other providers.
> >=20
> > If the *customers* go away...
> >=20
> > Nope=3B Comcast is acting as the agent of its customers to pull in traf=
fic
> > they want to see=2C and if it isn't charging them enough for that=2C th=
at is
> > *Comcast's* problem. =20
> >=20
> > It's really a bright-line answer.
> >=20
> > Cheers=2C
> > -- jra
> > --=20
> > Jay R. Ashworth                  Baylink                       jra@bayl=
ink.com
> > Designer                     The Things I Think                       R=
FC 2100
> > Ashworth & Associates     http://baylink.pitas.com         2000 Land Ro=
ver DII
> > St Petersburg FL USA               #natog                      +1 727 6=
47 1274
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