[161178] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: cannot access some popular websites from Linode,
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Sun Mar 3 04:36:13 2013
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAPKkNb6UC4b2haRU1dKGq1AkyOQfduXUtQKM+3cJwECXcn8rxw@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 01:35:20 -0800
To: "Constantine A. Murenin" <mureninc@gmail.com>
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Mar 2, 2013, at 16:21 , "Constantine A. Murenin" <mureninc@gmail.com> =
wrote:
> On 2 March 2013 15:45, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
>>> Now, back to ARIN: is Linode doing it right? Is vr.org doing it
>>> wrong? Are they both doing it correct, or are they both wrong?
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>>=20
>> ARIN Policies do require Linode to SWIP their customer allocations,
>> so the fact that they are not doing so is actually a violation of =
policy.
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> They have repeatedly disagreed, on two separate occasions, effectively
> claiming they themselves are the customers:
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>>>>> We now get all of our addresses assigned directly to us which is =
why our address is listed, however we still have some IP addresses in =
our pool with ...
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> So, the "new" addresses are all assigned directly to them.
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Not really...
The relevant section of the NRPM is 6.5.4 et. seq.
They are, for all practical purposes, acting as an LIR. They receive =
space from ARIN and then assign it to their customers (such as you).
According to 6.5.5.1, if they are assigning you a /64 or more, they must =
register that with ARIN through SWIP or RWHOIS.
If you are getting less than a /64, then, yes, you are out of luck.
>> Linode (and VR) probably shouldn't SWIP their datacenter blocks,
>> but this isn't really covered in policy one way or the other.
>>=20
>>> Anyhow. How do I get my geoloc to show Fremont, CA? And to have =
yelp
>>> stop returning 403 Forbidden?
>>=20
>> Get Linode to SWIP your blocks for starters.
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> Could work with IPv6, since I have a /56 from them, but I only have a
> single IPv4, so, per my understanding, an IPv4 SWIP is not possible.
Correct... For IPv4, you're kind of hosed.
Geolocation of IP addresses has always been an ill-conceived quagmire. =
This is not news.
However, in terms of getting the best you can out of a bad situation, =
the advice above is about as good as it gets.
Owen
