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Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Wed Feb 27 14:51:10 2013

From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <16113033.7676.1361979566591.JavaMail.root@benjamin.baylink.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 11:47:16 -0800
To: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


On Feb 27, 2013, at 7:39 AM, Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jared Mauch" <jared@puck.nether.net>
>=20
>> Sad as we all know the main cost for 1g to a site is in the optics
>> (well actually the fiber build... But after that, it costs almost
>> nothing to light it at 1g). A pair of 20km optics is about $250.
>=20
> I see that assertion a lot, and I want to correct it.
>=20
> The major cost, MRC, is *the router port*; I don't know what the =
95%ile
> BW for a major hotel is going to be over a month, but I suspect that=20=

> you're gonna need the whole 1Gb/s worth of port to handle the peaks.
>=20
> And those aren't exactly cheap -- though, by "daily commercial hotel=20=

> revenue" standards, I suppose they're not *that* expensive; what kind
> of margins do hotels make?
>=20

Actually, local loop usually exceeds router port.

If you're at one of the data centers where we have presence, I can sell =
you a dual-stack Gig for <$1/Mbps.

OTOH, getting a Gig-E to the datacenter from the hotel and then the =
additional cost of the XC are probably more than $1,000/month when =
combined. Possibly by some multiplier =E2=89=A52.

Owen



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