[160998] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: NYT covers China cyberthreat
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Bellovin)
Thu Feb 21 15:06:11 2013
From: Steven Bellovin <smb@cs.columbia.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20C408D6-BDE1-4EDF-BE0A-F8E7DAE02633@cs.columbia.edu>
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 15:05:33 -0500
To: valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Feb 20, 2013, at 9:07 PM, Steven Bellovin <smb@cs.columbia.edu> =
wrote:
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> On Feb 20, 2013, at 1:33 PM, valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
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>> On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 15:39:42 +0900, Randy Bush said:
>>> boys and girls, all the cyber-capable countries are cyber-culpable. =
you
>>> can bet that they are all snooping and attacking eachother, the =
united
>>> states no less than the rest. news at eleven.
>>=20
>> The scary part is that so many things got hacked by a bunch of people
>> who made the totally noob mistake of launching all their attacks from
>> the same place....
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> This strongly suggests that it's not their A-team, for whatever value =
of
> "their" you prefer. (My favorite mistake was some of them updating =
their
> Facebook pages when their work took them outside the Great Firewall.) =
They
> just don't show much in the way of good operational security.
Mandiant apparently feels the same way: =
http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/02/21/the-shanghai-army-uni=
t-that-hacked-115-u-s-targets-likely-wasnt-even-chinas-a-team/
--Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb
