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Re: Will wholesale-only muni actually bring the boys to your yard?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Mon Feb 4 18:19:13 2013

From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAMrdfRx2d_BSoeBETt+KbL8ntmNHS5h7FNoi_mY9x=ti-20uZQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 15:14:56 -0800
To: Scott Helms <khelms@zcorum.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>, Brandon Ross <bross@pobox.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


On Feb 4, 2013, at 13:46 , Scott Helms <khelms@zcorum.com> wrote:

> Brandon,
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Brandon Ross <bross@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 4 Feb 2013, Scott Helms wrote:
>> 
>> One thing to keep in mind is that I don't believe its possible to get a
>>> contract with the bulk of the content owners in a wholesale scenario.
>>> 
>> 
>> You do really need to read the thread before you post.
>> 
> 
> There are tons and tons and tons of organizations that will sell the
> operator of a network content to sell to that operator's subscribers
> directly.  Most well known is the cable coop, who only exists to do just
> that.  The problem is that what's been proposed is that the network
> operator be able to then turn around and offer those services as a whole
> sale level to another operator, on the same physical but not not layer 2,
> plant.  That's what I don't think you can get contracts inked for.
> 

Actually, as I understood what was proposed, you would bring Cable Coop
and/or other such vendors into the colo space adjacent to the MMR and
let them sell directly to the other service providers and/or customers.

Owen



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