[160335] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jay Ashworth)
Mon Feb 4 10:21:07 2013
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 10:20:52 -0500 (EST)
From: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com>
To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason Baugher" <jason@thebaughers.com>
> What we've seen is that the RBOC typically has a lot of crap copper in the
> ground, in a lot of cases air-core (pre gel-fill) that hasn't held up well.
> With the popularity of DSL, they ran out of good pairs to use. As they ran
> out of pairs, they eventually had to put in remote terminals to handle any
> new voice orders. They knew the future was fiber, at least to the node, so
> they had no incentive to build new copper plant, and little incentive to
> maintain the existing plant.
I have been saying, out loud, in public places, for at least 15 years, that
Verizon's *real* incentive in doing FiOS was to clean up after 3 decades
of GTE doing cut-to-clear rather than fixing actual problems in their
copper OSP...
Cheers,
-- jra
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Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com
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