[160310] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: muni L1 example (WAS: Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2?)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Osmon)
Sun Feb 3 17:18:14 2013
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 15:11:45 -0700
From: John Osmon <josmon@rigozsaurus.com>
To: Scott Helms <khelms@zcorum.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAMrdfRzcWXD36erM6QBpLRCG9U66ugwm6HgORgNxrR70Yv=-Fg@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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Thanks Scott. Even if you can't name names, having those points stored
somewhere searchable is going to help someone build a useful case when
deciding to deploy or not.
On Sun, Feb 03, 2013 at 04:55:41PM -0500, Scott Helms wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 4:38 PM, John Osmon <[1]josmon@rigozsaurus.com>
> wrote:
>
> Scott -- you've brought up *great* info for this thread. We all know
> that city/county/state/federal governments sometimes throw money away on
> boondoggles (as fiber could become). You've been able to pull from your
> direct experience to show how this is true.
>
> I threw in Idaho Falls because I'm betting it will help someone doing
> research in the future. Can you throw out some of the positive
> examples you've run across?
>
> Jason^h^h^h^hohn, the best cases I've seen were all those scenarios where if the muni
> didn't build the access it simply wouldn't happen. I've seen lots of
> different kinds of technologies used ranging from wireless (not 802.11),
> to DOCSIS cable (this is actually the most common in the US), and fiber.
> I can't share my customer's names unfortunately, but the successful ones
> all shared several things in common:
> 1) They had specific goals and built the network to reach those goals.
> In all the "good" situations the networks at least pay for themselves and
> in some places make a small profit.
> 2) They have personnel dedicated to their broadband offering that are
> motivated to make it succeed and the city listens to the technical and
> operational recommendations of that staff.
> 3) They focus on a relatively small number of products, generally either
> just L3 services or L3 services and broadcast video (especially for DOCSIS
> systems).
> 4) They get their pricing "right". This last point is perhaps the most
> important but hardest to do well.
>
> --
> Scott Helms
> Vice President of Technology
> ZCorum
> (678) 507-5000
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> References
>
> Visible links
> 1. mailto:josmon@rigozsaurus.com
> 2. http://twitter.com/kscotthelms
