[160031] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Muni network ownership and the Fourth
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Wed Jan 30 15:54:01 2013
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAGbD49poMXrDWiS1TVvEt0R=xEZhYfppFSC8nWpBL7w+=v7Caw@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:49:38 -0800
To: Jason Baugher <jason@thebaughers.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Jan 30, 2013, at 6:33 AM, Jason Baugher <jason@thebaughers.com> =
wrote:
> There is much talk of how many fibers can fit in a duct, can be =
brought
> into a colo space, etc... I haven't seen much mention of how much =
space the
> termination in the colo would take, such as splice trays, bulkheads, =
etc...
> Someone earlier mentioned being able to have millions of fibers coming
> through a vault, which is true assuming they are just passing through =
the
> vault. When you need to break into one of those 864-fiber cables, the =
room
> for splice cases suddenly becomes a problem.
>=20
> The other thing I find interesting about this entire thread is the
> assumption by most that a government entity would do a good job as a
> layer-1 or -2 provider and would be more efficient than a private =
company.
> Governments, including municipalities, are notorious for corruption, =
fraud,
> waste - you name it. Even when government bids out projects to the =
private
> sector these problems are seen.
I now this is a popular refrain, but in reality, it's not all that =
accurate.
I have no problem with allowing L1/L2 to be done by private enterprise, =
so
long as said private enterprises are required to abide by the following =
rules:
1. They are not allowed to sell L3+ services.
2. They are not allowed to own any portion of any L3+ service =
provider.
3. They must sell their L1/L2 services to any L3+ service provider =
on
equal terms.
Owen