[159965] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Ethernet Service at 150 S. Market Street, SJ
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Warren Bailey)
Tue Jan 29 16:11:16 2013
From: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
To: PC <paul4004@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:10:58 +0000
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Both.
If you're looking for some kind of actual out of band (for disaster recover=
y scenarios), Satellite is an excellent option. If you just need 100-200kbp=
s for basic console access, you could absolutely accomplish this with satel=
lite. The only real difference between Satellite and Cellular is, if there =
is any real power at the facility Satellite will be online =97 I don't thin=
k we can say the same for cellular BTS's. Every Cellular installation I hav=
e done (over 300) has had a single feed to primary power. Power goes out ac=
ross several blocks and suddenly the BTS's that are outside of that area ar=
e saturated with additional handset registrations. If it were me, I would n=
ot rely on 3G/4G for anything that had actual ramifications behind it. If y=
ou've got a killer SLA with your customers, the funds to deploy a VSAT solu=
tion are minimal at best. 1mbps/1mbps with no SLA across satellite is in th=
e hundreds of dollars per month, and you get a VLAN piped straight back int=
o your gear at your offices.
From: PC <paul4004@gmail.com<mailto:paul4004@gmail.com>>
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:58:12 -0700
To: User <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com<mailto:wbailey@satellitein=
telligencegroup.com>>
Cc: George Herbert <george.herbert@gmail.com<mailto:george.herbert@gmail.co=
m>>, Mike Lyon <mike.lyon@gmail.com<mailto:mike.lyon@gmail.com>>, "nanog@na=
nog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org>" <nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org>>
Subject: Re: Ethernet Service at 150 S. Market Street, SJ
For typical console access/OOB use cases only or a lot more data? If the f=
ormer, I can't see any reason to mess with anything more than a telemetry-r=
ate plan SIM card in a 3g/4g console server. Chances are, if you can get c=
ell phone coverage to your cage, it will work fine. They're also very chea=
p, lower latency, and nothing more than velcro is needed to install them.
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligen=
cegroup.com<mailto:wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>> wrote:
I would be more than happy to put an antenna on a data center roof. Dependi=
ng on throughput requirements, it would probably end up being cheaper to us=
e satellite. Satellite is excellent for actual OOB and obviously much more =
reliable in a DR scenario.
From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.
-------- Original message --------
From: George Herbert <george.herbert@gmail.com<mailto:george.herbert@gmail.=
com>>
Date: 01/29/2013 12:33 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: Mike Lyon <mike.lyon@gmail.com<mailto:mike.lyon@gmail.com>>
Cc: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com<mailto:wbailey@sa=
telliteintelligencegroup.com>>,nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: Ethernet Service at 150 S. Market Street, SJ
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Mike Lyon <mike.lyon@gmail.com<mailto:mik=
e.lyon@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Last I heard, roof rights are pricey down there :)
>
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Warren Bailey <
> wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com<mailto:wbailey@satelliteintelligen=
cegroup.com>> wrote:
>
>> Satellite! ;)
...And somewhat silly, given that it's *that* facility. But the roof
is mostly clear, if anyone needs to put up a dish.
There are a couple of metro wireless providers that can touch that
location as well, in case your definition of OOB is pretty robustly
out-of-band...
But the likely solution is a network provider already there or nearby.
--
-george william herbert
george.herbert@gmail.com<mailto:george.herbert@gmail.com>
