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Re: CGN fixed/hashed nat question

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Nick Hilliard)
Wed Jan 23 07:38:42 2013

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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 12:38:22 +0000
From: Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org>
To: "Dobbins, Roland" <rdobbins@arbor.net>
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On 23/01/2013 02:57, Dobbins, Roland wrote:
> The overwhelming need for it is orthogonal to any schemes for hashing NAT source/dest ports.  

There are several conflicting requirements, including:

- requirement to run a business which makes money
- constraints on IPv4 addresses which mandate NAT
- law enforcement requirements, mandating either logging / port tracking
- network telemetry

law enforcement requirements aren't generally an issue until you get hit up
by a LEA / court order, at which point they become critical to ensuring
that your management doesn't end up displaying contempt of court.  For some
reason, management can get quite excited about this - more so than any
enthusiasm they might ever show for good quality network telemetry.

Nick



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