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Re: Suggestions for the future on your web site: (was cookies,

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (George Herbert)
Sun Jan 20 15:28:15 2013

In-Reply-To: <20130120195113.GQ31028@hezmatt.org>
From: George Herbert <george.herbert@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 12:27:58 -0800
To: Matt Palmer <mpalmer@hezmatt.org>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org



On Jan 20, 2013, at 11:51 AM, Matt Palmer <mpalmer@hezmatt.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 03:54:37PM -0800, George Herbert wrote:
>> On Jan 18, 2013, at 7:52 PM, Matt Palmer <mpalmer@hezmatt.org> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> Storing any state server-side is a really bad idea for scalability and
>>> reliability.
>>=20
>> ?
>>=20
>> Doing that - into a user state DB of sone sort, either external or in
>> middleware, is routine...
>=20
> It may be routine, but it is an additional point of failure, and it is als=
o
> an additional scaling bottleneck.  If all you ever run are tiny sites with=

> little chance of ever seeing big loads, sure, stick it in a DB somewhere.=20=

> But if you ever think (or even hope) that your site will take off one day,=

> it pays to think about these things and reduce the number of fires to put
> out by one.

I'm talking about multimillion user sites...

I designed the hosting infrastructure for one and have been a consulting arc=
hitect later in the site lifecycle for several others...


George William Herbert
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